Is it true that both the New Testament & the Quran tell you to turn the other cheek? “Vengeance is mine, I shall repay” saith the Lord in the Old Testament. But why should God have all the fun? Maybe saints are made by long-suffering abuse but I say forego the halo since it is never sane nor healthy for the oppressed to tolerate indignity & insult. It makes you feel small to stand there taking abuse without standing up for yourself. If you think about the times in your life that you regret, it is usually when you let someone run you around the block. I’m not disagreeing with God but just saying that maybe when those books were written he had no idea just how bad things were gonna get.┬áThink of standing your ground not so much vengeance as pedagogy of the hard-scrabble kind.